She made her film debut in "The World According
to Garp" in 1982 playing Robin Williams' mother
after segueing from a successful career in the
theater.
After notable roles in "The Big Chill" and "The
Natural," Close stunned audiences as the naive
attorney in the thriller, "Jagged Edge," the obsessed
career woman in "Fatal Attraction" and the conniving
French aristocrat in "Dangerous Liaisons.
Born in Greenwich, Connecticut and a graduate
from the College of William and Mary, Glenn Close
represented the quintessential woman of the Eighties
- ambitious, intelligent, lusty and fearless.
Her other films include "The Paper," "Reversal
of Fortune," "101 Dalmatians" and "Cookie's Fortune."
Ms. Close talked about her latest role as Kala,
the gorilla mother to an infant in "Tarzan," her
work and her attitude as a mother.
The
Interview
What was the Tarzan animated experience
like? It really was the biggest one I've done.
I find it very hard, because you're sitting in
an isolated sound booth with your earphones on
and a script in front of you. You somehow have
to get rid of all your inhibitions, and in your
imagination go to this world, and go to these
scenes that you literally have to construct in
your imagination, and do it. It can tend to make
you feel kind of shy. But I got to a point where,
I mean, basically with acting you have to make
a fool of yourself anyway. It was just more tangible.
Did you feel the need to study gorillas or
go there? No, that wasn't really the point
because you do see any of my movement. It was
just about the voice. And when they first asked
me to do it, I thought, 'Gosh, if a gorilla opened
her mouth what would her voice sound like?' [Mumbled
gorilla speech] But that wasn't what they wanted,
obviously. They wanted whatever qualities they
heard in my voice. Once I got over that, I could
relax.
So you weren't watching the movie as you did
the voice over? Not at all, because they hadn't
done the animation yet. My understanding is that
they basically do the detail of the animation
after they've gotten the voice. The voice you
do quite early on. Two and a half years ago, I
think, I had my first session.
You didn't know what you would look like?
Oh, yes, they've done that. They know what all
the characters will look like. I actually saw
the beautiful plaster model of Kala and I saw
a lot of the storyboard. I went to the animation
building out in California and spend a day there
meeting everybody. I met everybody, in every phase
of the production, and it was just very eye opening
and very impressive to see the artwork. They were
working on 'Mulan' at the time, and they have,
in the lobby, pictures of the whole cast up with
their characters, and a lot of the beautiful art
on one hallway. And then they had all of 'Tarzan'
on the other. So you really feel like you're part
of a very special, gifted team of people. You've
spent a lot of time in Africa. I have, yes. Not
with gorillas, though. It's what I would love
to do. I'm a mother, to me that's Kala. I have
a child that I used to sing to, and my daughter's
the most important thing in my life. When you
have a child you want to protect them, you hurt
when they hurt and you want to hopefully give
them whatever equipment they'll need to deal with
life. And that's basically what Kala tries to
do. It's very hard in this day and age to convince
a child that who she is, is the most important
thing of all. That she does not have to look a
certain way, or wear certain clothes, or be in
a certain group. Because there's so many forces
teaching our children that they have to be a certain
way. And it's, I think, family is there to teach
children otherwise. Their uniqueness, while they
have that connection.
What are your strongest memories of your time
in Africa? I went to Africa [because] my
parents lived there. I've never been on a safari.
They lived in Kinshasa, which is now back to the
Congo. The last big even that my father, who was
a doctor, was involved in before he left in 1976
was the outbreak of an unknown virus called Ebola.
Nobody knew about it, and my dad and I were talking
about it one day and I said, 'Man, this would
be a great movie.' So I went to Columbia, got
$25,000, returned to Africa with my dad in 1987,
to a country that was totally in ruins, basically.
We found our way; it was one of the greatest trips
I'll ever make in my life, 300 miles across the
rainforest to the mission where Ebola had broken
out. We did some of the initial research and met
some of the nuns and priests who had been involved.
Then 'Outbreak' came out, and that was it. 'Outbreak'
is not the story of Ebola. But that was going
deep into the heart of Africa, and that was astounding
- the color, the sounds, the people and the overwhelming
sounds of the rainforest. So I have very vivid
memories of that.
When your parents first went there, you were
in your teens.Did you go away to school?
I never really lived there. I spent protracted
vacation, but I never actually went to school
in Africa.
In your last Disney movie, you got to ham
it up as Cruella DeVille.Did you have as
much fun on this one? It was nice. I mean,
I really believe in this movie. I think it's a
beautiful movie, and I really like what it says.
I've analyzed mother figures in all the great
cartoons. Because, first of all, I grew up with
them and then I saw them again with my child.
I realized that it's very rare to have a mother
figure, because, in all the timeless fairy tales,
for something scary to happen to a child you have
to remove the mother. Mothers protect. So, Bambi's
mother dies. Cinderella doesn't have a mother.
She has a wicked stepmother. Sleeping Beauty doesn't
have a mother. She has little fairies. Belle in
'Beauty and the Beast' doesn't have a mother,
and she has a very kind of out of it father. The
Little Mermaid doesn't have a mother, and has
a very distant father, again, who doesn't understand
her. Like Bambi, who has this father who kind
of goes by, very formal. I think I'm right, the
first of the great-animated features that had
a mother that didn't die was 'Lion King.' But
she doesn't figure that strongly. It's more Nala,
the young lion that figures. So here we are with
a story that allows for a great mother figure,
but still allows something to happen to the child.
And it's rare.
I was worried you were going to die. Oh.
I'm glad she doesn't die.
Were you aware of what mannerisms they might
have brought to Kala from you? I just asked
the two directors because I've been asked this
question, and they said basically the eyes.
Do you think it's a big responsibility, playing
in a Disney film that's going to be seen by thousands
of children? I think it is. I think what Kala
brings to this movie is comfort and love and commitment.
She says in the very beginning, in the lullaby,
'You'll be in my heart always. I will always be
here.' And I think that's what children want to
hear. Children want to know that you're going
to be there, no matter what they you're going
to be there. I think that the most terrible nightmare
for a child is to be abandoned. So I think to
be a mother who follows through on her commitment,
even at the end when it might mean risking losing
him, is a very powerful message - to mothers,
as well as to children.
What was it like seeing your voice come out
of Kala on the screen? It was very strange.
Very strange. And then I kind of forgot it was
my voice.
Did you do any ad-libbing? No. I can't
say I'm a great ad-libber. I have to really be
in the mood, and usually I kind of get into trouble
when I try to ad-lib. And her scenes are very
different; they're very focused. I think the challenge
for the voice was to convey her strength and love,
and to make it palpable in the voice. Because
when you're not used to doing voice acting, I
guess, you know that you have your face to rely
on, you have your body language to rely on. A
lot of acting is what you don't say. And you don't
have that. You only have the words. I heard Tony
say in one of his interviews yesterday that it's
like some sort of crazy acting class, some acting
exercise, and he's right. Pure voice.
Do you approach your selection of roles differently
as a mother? Absolutely. I feel that there
are some movies that are irresponsible to make
in the climate of this country. I feel that quite
strongly. And you can't, I mean, this country
is based on freedom of expression, so it has to
be a very individual thing. But I choose to not
contribute to certain elements that I think are
not healthy. I've turned down things because of
that.
'Tarzan' has a very strong anti-gun message.Was
that on your mind at all as you did this? Yes.
I think that is a very strong message, and I think
it's good. Only the bad guy has the gun, not the
good guy. Also, it questions, what is civilization?
You know, we think we're so civilized. I've questioned
that, many times. I don't know what the difference
between what's going on in Kosovo and what happened
in the Middle Ages. I think there's something
in the human spirit that wants catharsis. We want
to think that we can start over again. But then
how do you get catharsis without bloodshed? And
I have this theory that forgiveness is basically
how you get that without bloodshed, but forgiveness
then becomes a revolutionary act. And who's going
to forgive and not be killed? Because in history,
the people who have preached forgiveness have
basically been killed.
It seems that Tarzan is a new type of role
model for masculinity. He doesn't celebrate the
ability to overpower. Right. He's an innocent,
really, who learns and is kind. I think he has
awareness that there are other species on the
planet. Now we're putting it all on the story,
but I think that was part of Edgar Rice Burroughs
as well.
Do you think Hollywood will actually change
its ways in the wake of all this media criticism?
I just read in the paper yesterday that Fox announced
their new shows, and they're all at a level of
violence and sex that has never been seen before
on TV. And I think, you know, damn them, really.
That's my noble end.
What
are you working on next? Oh, I've been developing
things for the last three years. I'm actually
developing three feature films at Disney, and
then I'm developing things for television, for
cable. The thing I'm doing immediately after this
is actually something I haven't developed. It's
a very beautiful, first script, first director,
a man called Rodrigo Garcia, who actually went
thought the Sundance Film Lab and it is about
a bunch of women in a valley. Then I'm doing something
that I did help develop and produce, called 'The
Ballad of Lucy Whipple,' which will be for CBS.
And then we're doing '102 Dalmatians.' And then
there are other things, but that's kind of the
near future.