September 13, 1999
by Veronica Mixon
He is best known for such films as "Diner," "Footloose," "A Few Good Men," "Apollo 13," "Sleepers," "The River Wild" and "Wild Things." Bacon has carved out a unique career which includes leading man and character driving parts.
Born and raised in Philadelphia, 41-year-old Kevin Bacon work on stage in
New York before making his first Hollywood film, the teen classic, "Animal
House." His early work includes work on daytime TV shows like "Search for
Tomorrow" and "Guiding Light." His appearance as the rebellious dancing
teenager, Ren MacCormack in "Footloose" made him a star but stardom proved to
be tricky. A series of big movie flops plagued the actor despite his
participation in popular films like "Flatliners," "Tremors," "JFK" and
"Murder in the First."
A few years ago, he formed a band with his brother and revived his
enthusiasm for live performance. He also directed his first film, "Losing
Chase" with Helen Mirren and his wife, Kyra Sedgwick. Today, Bacon is a much
happier man. He and Sedgwick have two children, his musical career is
flourishing and he's in the middle of finishing Paul Verhoven's "The Hollow
Man" with Elizabeth Shue. "STIR OF ECHOES" is his latest film.
THE INTERVIEW
What was your first horror movie?
I was in the very first "Friday the 13th." I was one of the many teenage
victims of that episode. "Flatliners" I guess, was in the same genre
although maybe more supernatural. When I think of horror films, I think of
the "Exorcist" and "The Shining," "Rosemary's Baby" and "The Hunger." Films
that are very much character driven. The monsters, the demons - they're
interesting but they aren't really at the heart of it. What's happening to
the people are what is at the heart of it. And, I think that's what's
happening in this film.
What attracted you to this role?
I thought that the place where the character was struggling with saying
goodbye to his dream and struggling with the idea that he was becoming
normal, you know, becoming his father was a pretty interesting thing to play.
Then, you add on a story, a mystery that's what I was attracted to. Also,
there's a great dichotomy just being a regular Joe who has this kind of an
incredible experience. It's a very intense kind of thing he goes through.
Does this film say something to people who think the best is over when I hit
40?
I certainly think that's a good message, if that is the message. I think at
any point in your life, something can open it up and you can go through a
passage. Something can shake things up and open up doors. Sometimes, it's a
birth, death, divorce - those kinds of experiences can turn things around. I
also think [there] comes the moment where you can think I'm stuck. I'm not
going anyway.
Did you ever feel stuck?
Ironically, people still have a hard time believe this, but I was feeling
exactly the same way when I got the picture. And, when I played the sense in
the kitchen talking to Katie [Erbe] in the movie, it was a very difficult
scene for me to play. It was like reading from the pages of my life because
that's the way it felt. Of course, from the outside, my life is nothing like
that. And, yet, there is a common thread amongst people where you start to
see certain dreams falling away. You start to find yourself entering into a
certain stage in your life and you have certain responsibilities. You start
to pine for those days when you didn't have them.
You're a successful actor. There's that game surrounding your name.
[Pauses] I don't know if that's a sign of success.
What things do you feel you haven't realized yet?
There's a weird kind of thing about an actor because you're never quite
there. You always feel like you're chasing it. There's always someone
that's doing better. There's always some list that you're not on. There's
always some award that you haven't gotten or some price tag that you haven't
reached. There's always some place to be. Some place else to go. I don't
know, maybe, that's the way it is with everybody. I've never done anything
else so I can't say.
Do you need to be in charge?
Well, there's also the strange kind of feeling that I think sometimes, as a
guy and I'll just speak as a guy - and I'm not saying that this doesn't apply
to women. But I think it definitely applies to guys - by the time you hit
your forties, and usually in your thirties, if you've done well in almost any
other business, then you're running the show. If you're a carpenter, then
you're a contractor now and you've got the guys hammering the nails and
you're coming in giving the bids. If you've been successful, then you're
moving up and you're not still working for the man. You know.
You still have the insecurity of being an actor?
Yeah. As an actor, you're always still working for the man. I'm always
sitting waiting for the telephone to ring. Going in, hoping that the guy is
going to like me enough to give me the job. I've got make sure I'm doing a
good job for him and the studio - make sure that they're happy. Then, a lot
of times, the guys running the studios who are actually moving up are 25.
[Laughs] You have people putting clothes on you, touching your hair and
putting make up on you and stuff. It can be a strangely emasculating
profession. So, I think those are some of the things that you kind of
confront as an actor. That's why a lot of times, you see, actors starting to
direct because they want to be running the show.
Would you like to go back to the stage like your early days?
I would like to go back to the stage. I'll tell you music has kind of taken
the place of that in a strange kind of way because I realize that when we put
the band together that one of the things that I was really missing was
butterflies. I don't really get scared making movies. It's a very
comfortable place for me to live because I spent most of my life on a movie
set. There's a danger in doing a play because every night. It can go wrong.
A house that likes you or it doesn't. There's a heckler. A sore throat.
An actor's drunk. There's a lot of danger there which doesn't really exist
in movies and I find that having some danger is a good thing for one's
creative life. It keeps the creative juices flowing and it keeps them on
edge.
What about singing?
That's what playing music has given me because there's nothing scarier than
standing up, singing a song that you wrote about something that's happen to
you and exposing yourself in that way. I would like to go back to theater.
I've always believed that there's only one thing that keeps an actor from
doing theater and that's fear. I mean, it's a place that really separates
the men from the boys as far as I'm concerned. Being able to create a
performance and get it up and get it out there and make it work eight times a
week is an incredibly daunting kind of task but, I'd certainly like to put it
there.
How do you keep film acting as spontaneous as you think it ought to be?
That's the job - you hit on the job of film acting - keeping it fresh.
Keeping it spontaneous and conserving your energy for the moments when it
really happens or when it's really going to work. Because [when] you get to
a scene like the digging, you go in the morning to rehearse and see where the
camera is going to be. But, for 12 hours, you're going to be walking back
and stopping for an hour or so, waiting for the light, waiting for the clouds
to clears, running back out, shooting it, there was an airplane so we've got
to do it again. Trying to keep that intensity fresh and keep all that stuff
- that's what hard about movie acting. I mean, I'm been working on this
picture now and we'll get one shot before lunch and one after lunch. I'll
say the same line thirty, forty, fifty times. It really is tough.
Is this the "Hollow Man?"
Yeah. We had to shut down all together for a couple of months because
Elizabeth Shue ruptured her Achilles tendon. So, she's come back and kick my
ass. It's a very cool part. I love working with Paul Verhoeven and Lisa
Shue, and it's actually going to be a really cool picture.
Will that be difficult after so long?
Yeah, it will be. But, you know it will be ok. It's a very difficult movie
anyway because it's very heavy effects laden. I'm the invisible man and the
process of shooting the invisibility is all new technology that we're trying
out, and it's really going to be cool. It looks incredible. But, actually
getting it done is very, very tedious. And, in terms of the acting, the
acting takes a way backseat. In "STIR OF ECHOES," the effects are very
simply but I think they are very effective.
Do you cope with down time as vacations?
I don't think of down time as vacations. I actually have learned to like
vacations because we take very specific time and we call it a vacation. This
down time in this movie has not been good because it's been a really drag.
We had a lot of family plans. We're always trying to juggle my wife's career
and my career, and the kids school time - and it was all going to work out
ok. It was difficult to juggle. Oh, I sound like I'm complaining a lot.
[Laughs] I'm very happy to have the gig. But, when I'm out of work, I use
to try to think of it as vacation but its really not because you're in
pursuit of other work. You're whole being is focused on trying to get a job
or I'm trying to write songs or I'm in the studio or playing gigs or I'm
reading things or I'm thinking of things to option. When we first got
married, we carved out definite vacation time and we shut down.
How did that game of 'Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon' first get started?
These guys in college - in Pennsylvania - they were sitting around and came
up with the idea and it took off.